BE GONE! On top of that, there are serious efforts to get John Lotter off the death row, where he belongs. Identity politics or whatever cannot alter scientific fact. Let grown adults be free to do as they see fit within the constrains of mutual consent, but for the love of all that is firm enough to be solid ground dont make an untrue true because someone feels like it; already confused identities wont get any benefit from even more distortion of what actually is, and many trans people are quite happy as just that once its obvious its not a flash in the pan or knee jerk reaction to trauma, and no balanced soul should have to much to do with what is not any their business if no one is unhappy about the arrangement unless someone actually is or has been asked. Its incoherent nonsense but its everywhere; and right- (with a small r) thinking people feel too cowed by vicious liberal intolerance to call a spade a spade and say wait a minute arent you getting a bit carried away? According to Jones book Lana Tisdel is sitting in the car, when Teena walks up to her. Its absolutely in the public/taxpayers/prisons/other prisoners interests to foster as functioning an inmate as possible, which is why much effort is made to enable inmates to communicate with families. What I would object to, per the above observation, is demand/enforcement/coercion of something that I should be free to offer as a kindness because it is, in fact, counter-factual for the reason you state. She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. A lot of street, lot of bluster and anger. Lana Tisdel's Net Worth: $1-5 Million Age, Height & Body Measurements Lana Tisdel current age 45 years old. Unfortunately Teena Brandon was the indigent patient under state care, and all they did, was giver her a handout about trans people. brandons agab may be female but his gender identity was male. Downtown: Brandon Teena's Tragic Story. Teena Brandon was competing with Nissen for status, he was her chauffeur, and she lied about a lot of things to inflate her position. FROM THE AFFORDABLE, Males react differently when subjected to the same. To say anything untoward about him will ruin friendships that took many years to develop. Intellectual is a bit kind: more probably prisoner/murderer fetishism (hybristophilia a paraphilia (ie, sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviours, or individuals) in which sexual arousal/facilitation/attainment of orgasm are responsive to/contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage such as rape or murder.) It just gets a little confusing sometimes because you see a picture of him as a little girl and then as a teenage boy. Lotter said that he first met Teena when she walked up to him at the Oasis Bar and they talked and walked out to her car, got inside and shared a fifth of vodka. Is everybodys IQ low in that town? Its the person who REALLY matters, not the accidental characteristics that overtake and make abstract the person in the chattering (or twittering) of liberals. Full disclosure I dont believe in the death penalty either. Very tired of hearing this low IQ score crap!! Except, what homework? There are widely circulating and well documented accounts of how Teena Brandon was blowing off her probation officers, John Dunne recounts one such story where Teena made an excuse saying that she had to go help with a certain aunt. Nissen raped Teena first, Lotter was in the front seat and the way he was cheering on is beyond words. Who knows? Being kind isnt PC, its simply decent. You seem to know much about the case. Its not clear what type of work she does or whether she and her husband are still together. Required fields are marked *. Teena was trying to join the U.S. Army as a radio communications technician, and she would have done well in the military, she had leadership potential. Tisdel has disputed claims that after the truth was revealed to her, they continued a romantic relationship, but instead she told Brandon that they could still be friends. You both was there so you both participated in it. Really, read up on the outlaw biker violence against women and how Nissen beat Teena by kicking and punching her in the belly every time he beat her. CITIZENS! A year before Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel herself had appeared in the documentary The Brandon Teena Story, and she seemed like a sympathetic character there, too. Leslie Tisdel was vocal about the film's script changes, and upset that her boyfriend who was murdered, Phillip DeVine, was not included in the film, nor was she, and instead the film focused on Brandon Teena. The guy is anxious and uncomfortable twirling a beer glass when he is telling this. Talk about back water to down trash. However, i do think its silly that one is on death row and the other has life. Thats all that matters. BRAIN INJURY,AS WELL AS OTHER INJURIES! Ex-cons John Lotter and Thomas Nissen had targeted Brandon Teena for murder to quiet a rape case against the two ex-cons. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. How self-serving and ignorant can you get? Lotter and Nissen disposed of the murder weapons, a stolen .380-caliber handgun and a knife with Lotter written on its case, by throwing them into the Nemaha River. 1 How many Post Op Transmen do you know who joined the military? 100% They knew it was wrong the murder was a PUNISHMENT & it was completely premeditated. The biggest problem with the Aphordite Jones book about Teena Brandon, All that S/He Wanted is a screen-play treatment of Teena Brandons tragedy. I suggest you leave the diagnosing to the real medical professionals like the doctor who commented here. Thats why hes doing life & not death row. Everyone exploited Teena Brandons murder in the most disgusting way possible. You cant take it away from her. AM LOOKING FOR CLEAN, SAFE, It allows the individuals that commit violent crimes to be glamorized, to feel gratitude for the crimes they committed. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. Not to mention, . Tisdel was taken to Stormont Vail Hospital in Topeka, Kansas with serious injuries.[11][12]. WHERE ARE THEIR SECOND CHANCES AT LIFE??? BB: Thanks for your most engaging response. Lots of people oppose the death penalty both in moral and practical terms. Lisa Lamberts house. The next article you should look at is Carolyn Gages The Inconvenient Truth About Teena Brandon, which gives a good account of Teenas psychiatric symptoms and why she was hospitalized, and has a great reveal in the end. Teena was running, both literally and figuratively. Dave: Thats certainly one consideration that administering death drags us down to the perps level (albeit that the administration is perhaps more civilised than theirs was) If the US must have it I favour it being done with brutal candour (not brutality): hanging, shooting, and the chair are all quick and painless when done competently and look like what they are: capital punishment. I have seen it occur before. After they raped Teena, they told her that they would murder her if she told anyone, and Teena believed them. The only way I would is if its proven to be a deterrent but Im not sure it has. Whatever the case, Lotters last appeal was rejected by the Nebraska Supreme Court in September 2018. Notice how no account of Teena Brandons life examines Teenas family to any extent. RETIRED ME THERE ANY USEFUL SUGGESTIONSOUT THERE,PLEASE? Ive seen john lotters interviews and there is no way he doesnt know right from wrong. Teena and Phil were trapped in Humboldt by poverty and homelessness. The man never showed remorse and would do it again because he judged Teena as deserving of what they did to her. Do you know who punches and kicks women in the stomach? The Harley riders then started sobering up and making their way over to police to surrender and hoping to cut a deal with prosecutor and get some leniency, none of them were real criminals. What about that so called sheriff. Maybe someones mind could be enlightened if they opened it instead of walking away. The two then kidnapped Teena and took him to a rural area, where they raped and beat him. Indeed, CA estimated then that is cost 10 times more than lifers cost. After Brandon, 21, filed sexual assault charges, Lotter and Nissen decided to kill him in a case that became the subject of the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 movie Boys Dont Cry starring Hilary Swank. You can try to twist your own transphobic narrative on this subject all you want, but Brandon exemplified in every way the accepted psycbosocial identity of a trans personhe lived and loved as a man at a time when transgender identities were dismissed and vilified as some sort of carnival sideshow or transgressive pervert, and ultimately that is why he was killedby ignorance arguably no different than your own. I WAS TOLD, Tough love. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. The world needs a hero, but everyone is waiting for some guy to come out of the sky and fix what is your responsibility and where it is highly likely the corrupt power structure invented or tainted that scenario just enough to make it suit their global aspirations. I know Teena better than you do. A large number of hobos watched and testified, but none stopped this murder. This could have been easily fixed with steroid injections you can get on the street. Are they? At one point in my life I saw about 1100 female cadets go through a police academy, only maybe 1 or 2 women had the positive personal qualities similar to Teena Brandons. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Phillip DeVine and Lisa Lambert was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). 'We Are Who We Are' premieres on September 14, 2020. . Crime is crime regardless of any so-called prejudice involved. Struggle to survive. The quasi-medical needle is a dishonest compromise to render death more palatable to the public (and is not necessarily quick and painless the practical justification.) AND we all know Lana's Mother HATED Brandon. the poor kid didnt seem to have a chance and I do not think tainting the truth with more feelings is going to help things. Apart from the television works, this American has also appeared in movies. This was apparently with all of the censorship of social media on only one side of the conversation. Had Teena Brandon been getting quality psychiatric care, they would have addressed her sex abuse trauma, her eating disorder, her OCD, her alcohol abuse, and only then suggest sex reassignment etc. According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? In some cases children younger than 10 have been prosecuted as adults. Im sorry, but where is there evidence of this? And while arguments good, those incapable of engaging with argument resort to assertion and moral coercion: If you disagree with me youre mean/nasty/inhumane Thats dross. Dunne is a great writer, but his article about Teena Brandon sucks. Her kidnapping, rape, and murder was a lot more brutal in real life, because the two were a lot closer to her than the film portrays. Teena Brandons psychological symptoms were the result of early childhood exposure to criminality, domestic violence against her mom and her sister, and alcohol abuse first. L.L. Quit wasting tax payers money on these disgusting bags of dung. She spent two years working at a Mc Donalds restaurant, and they wanted her, a high school drop out to go on the management track. As a boy, Lotter scored 76 on a school IQ test, but he got only 67 on the one he took while incarcerated. Teenas real problem was that she witnessed her mother and sister getting hit at around 3 to 5 years of age, and spend the rest of her life running from domestic violence and mysogeny. Was it because they thought it the right thing to do? He offered some sort of an apology that is written in a totally contrived language. Blown out and lonely. 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